In this conversation, Jeff Wenninger, a retired law enforcement professional, discusses the complexities and challenges within the police force, emphasizing the need for cultural change, better training, and hiring practices. He highlights the importance of education in reducing use of force incidents and advocates for a more empathetic approach to policing, especially in mental health crises. Wenninger also critiques the effectiveness of body cameras and the insular nature of law enforcement agencies, calling for a reevaluation of practices and policies to align with societal expectations.

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